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Я смотрю на этой шторе уже год,тоже проектор 3LCD с яркостью 2800L,даже в эко режиме норм.Интересно,что на белом яркости заметно не хватает в эко,но на светло-сером вполне норм=) Думаю ещё одним плюсом этого экрана вам покажется механизм сворачивания,слегка оттянул вниз и она сама сворачивается(инопланетные технологии) =)
И как уже много раз говорил,у неё есть обратная сторона тёмно-серая,потом сможите поэкспирементировать с покраской при желании,но только обратной стороны,ни в коем случае не лицевой!
Пришёл ответ от автора этого экрана!!! За 300 мл этой краски хотят 140 EUR + 43 EUR доставка в москву!!! Итого 183 EUR чуть меньше 15000р за 100" )))))
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Hi guys.
After reading almost everything about the Super Deluxe screen, I really want to make one using a mirror.
But I cant find the proper paint anywhere here in Denmark.
I have written to the Behr company, asking where to get the paint, but they still haven´t answered.
Can anybody help out here ?
Regards
argieX
argieX,
European color standards are entirely different than US standards. The best you can do is carefully explain what it is you want to your local Paint jobber, and go for the best, closest match available.
Use this as your asking guide.
You need for MississippiMud Top Coat :
....to ask first for all Acrylic latex "Indoor FLAT" type paints
<<<<<<<< 1 Quart (1000 ML) of Accent or Deep Base >>>>>>>>>>>.
Accent Base is a white paint that is neutral enough to allow the mixed in lighter pigments to evenly distribute throughout it's contents and create subtle colors
Deep Base has more white oxide in it, and so creates deeper, richer colors from corresponding pigments.
I suggest Deep base as a first choice.
<<<<<<< 2 Quarts (2000 ML) of a white, "Pearlescent" paint. >>>>>
Such a paint will have a sheen to it, much like many creamy white shampoos. The sheen is the result of the Paint having a special mixture of clear glaze and a very light dose of white oxide. the end result is a paint that is very "translucent" so light will pass through it more easily.
<<<<<<<< 1 quart (1000 ML) Ultra Pure white "Ceiling" paint. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Some have asked, "Why "Ceiling" paint?" Because Flat White Ceiling paint is really a very slight "off white". This helps to mollify the brightness quotient of the mix and allow the "FLAT" aspect to reign supreme
Add a 1/96 oz droplet (...that's a "teeny weenie bit" in metric conversion ) of Red Oxide if using a LCD PJ. Omit if using a DLP
If ya get it right, it should look like the shot below (w/Red oxide in there.)
Note that the dryed paint on the lid shows almost no pink hue whatsoever.
Tri messin' wit der mines wit all dat nfu.
Gud luk.
Hi guys.
After reading almost everything about the Super Deluxe screen, I really want to make one using a mirror.
But I cant find the proper paint anywhere here in Denmark.
I have written to the Behr company, asking where to get the paint, but they still haven´t answered.
Can anybody help out here ?
Regards
argieX
argieX,
European color standards are entirely different than US standards. The best you can do is carefully explain what it is you want to your local Paint jobber, and go for the best, closest match available.
Use this as your asking guide.
You need for MississippiMud Top Coat :
....to ask first for all Acrylic latex "Indoor FLAT" type paints
<<<<<<<< 1 Quart (1000 ML) of Accent or Deep Base >>>>>>>>>>>.
Accent Base is a white paint that is neutral enough to allow the mixed in lighter pigments to evenly distribute throughout it's contents and create subtle colors
Deep Base has more white oxide in it, and so creates deeper, richer colors from corresponding pigments.
I suggest Deep base as a first choice.
<<<<<<< 2 Quarts (2000 ML) of a white, "Pearlescent" paint. >>>>>
Such a paint will have a sheen to it, much like many creamy white shampoos. The sheen is the result of the Paint having a special mixture of clear glaze and a very light dose of white oxide. the end result is a paint that is very "translucent" so light will pass through it more easily.
<<<<<<<< 1 quart (1000 ML) Ultra Pure white "Ceiling" paint. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Some have asked, "Why "Ceiling" paint?" Because Flat White Ceiling paint is really a very slight "off white". This helps to mollify the brightness quotient of the mix and allow the "FLAT" aspect to reign supreme
Add a 1/96 oz droplet (...that's a "teeny weenie bit" in metric conversion ) of Red Oxide if using a LCD PJ. Omit if using a DLP
If ya get it right, it should look like the shot below (w/Red oxide in there.)
Note that the dryed paint on the lid shows almost no pink hue whatsoever.
Tri messin' wit der mines wit all dat nfu.
Gud luk.
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Видимо отсутствие аналога этой краски выражается как грязь(шум) на картинке...Серебряный огонь и Maxx Mudd в верхнем слое ее содержит..(оригинальный рецепт)
RS-MaxxMudd v.2.5 (updated 2-20-2015)
RS-MaxxMudd Retro v.2.5(darkest and highest gain of the rs-maxxmudd mixes, note the amount of SILVER in the mix)
20 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - Silver
12 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl
12 oz Behr 1850 Ultra Pure White - Flat
14 oz Rustoleum Ultimate Polyurethane - Matte Finish (water based)
20 oz distilled/tap water**
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RS-MaxxMudd v.2.5
(for low to moderate ambient light)
16 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - Silver
16 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl
12 oz Behr 1850 Ultra Pure White - Flat
14 oz. Rustoleum Ultimate Polyurethane - Matte Finish (water based)
20 oz. distilled/tap water**
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RS-MaxxMudd LL v.2.5
(for lower lumen pj's and controlled light home theaters)
20 oz. Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl
10 oz. Rustoleum Metallic Accents - Silver
12 oz. Behr 1850 Ultra Pure White - Flat
14 oz. Rustoleum Ultimate Polyurethane - Matte Finish (water based)
20 oz. distilled/tap water**
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this is the only mix of the rs-maxxmudd family that can be rolled
Attention!
The Following edit contains what is the most recent version of the Silver Fire formulation. Previous versions retain their validity, but the most recent versions are geared toward both refining the Formula, and in some instances, replacing components that either are hard / impossible to get, or less effective than the current choices. In the most recent version below, the individual Component amounts within the Reflective Base are graduated depending upon the chosen darkness of the mix upon adding specif amounts of SF Colorant.
*Last update/revision - 06/26/2015
SILVER FIRE v2.5 (Liquitex Based Colorant version)
All Liquitex Paints are found at Micheal's Arts & Crafts, Hobby Lobby Stores, or On-line at sources like www.DickBlick.com. Searches via Amazon and Ebay often return discounted results as well.
(Color Components)
Silver Fire Colorant Update
The following is an update to the Silver Fire v2.5 mix and applies to the colorant components.
Given the independent hard data... and descriptions from independent SF users making screens for themselves...
I am compelled to make these minor changes and make SF even more RGB nuetral.
(Colorant Components) - update 06/26/2015
100ml - filtered/distilled water for rinsing color components from utensils
50ml - Liquitex Basics - Napthol Crimson Red
25ml - Liquitex Basics - Phthalocyanine Green
14ml - Liquitex Basics - UltraMarine Blue
10ml - Liquitex Basics - Cadmium Yellow - Deep Hue
(Viscosity Components)
***Rustoleum's Ultimate Polyurethane Matte Finish (water based) 16 oz.
24 - 36 oz. Distilled or Filtered water*
(Reflective Base Components)*
Silver Fire v2.5 hue (Colorant amount in ounces – oz) ..........1.0 ..2.0 ...3.0.. 4.0 .. 5.0
Rustoleum Metallic Accents – White Pearl* See link below ** .,,,,,,20 ...21.. ,, 22,,..23... 24
Rustoleum Metallic Accents Sterling Silver *** AMAZON ..,,,,,,20. ..21,.., ,22,.. 23 .. 24
Behr 1850 UPW Flat Home Depot .....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,..10.. 10,.....10....10 ...10.
Liquitex Basics Gold Micheals . .................................................1.50 1.75 . 2.00. 2.25 2.50
...
The "Non-Bold" figures in the Reflective Base Table above are also "Ounces". As the "darkness" of a SF mix rises, the amount of Reflective Base components also rise
NEW Substitution for Liqutex Basics Silver 09-21-2013 (..this means "use it" if at all possible..)
***Rustoleum Metallic Accents Sterling Silver
http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-Met...terling+Silver
(comes in 32 oz container off Amazon )
* Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl is currently found only at Menards or Online (Amazon).
http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-Metallic-253611-Decorative-32-Ounce/dp/B003EELN1Y
*The 'Base' & 'Viscosity' components are mixed together separately from the 'colorant' components.
__________________________________________________ __________________
New Formula Addition:
As an alternative to the older RS-MaxxMudd LL & Retro formulas, below is a version hereafter called Silver Fire v2.5 N/C
Rustoleum Metallic Accents – White Pearl 24 oz.
Rustoleum Metallic Accents – Sterling Silver 16oz.
Behr 1750 UPW Flat 16 oz.
Rustoleum's Ultimate Polyurethane Matte Finish (water based) 16 oz.
Distilled Water 32 oz.
The "N/C" designation means that "No Colorant" is added.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________
NOOBS: Read the next section carefully !!!!!
The numerical equivalent of the shade of Gray (SF v2 1.0/1.5/2.0/2.5/3.0/4.0/5.0 on to ad nausea-um ) is equal to the amount "IN OUNCES" of Colorant added to what is a consistent and unchanging* Base combo of reflective and viscosity mixes.
* (...unless we decide to change them, of course. We'll let you know if we do.)
You want a lighter Silvery Gray screen that is excellent for a dedicated Theater yet still assists in improving perceived Contrast? Use 1 to 1.5 "OUNCES" of SF Colorant added to the reflective and viscosity Bases.
A Darker Gray for combating Ambient Light? Add 3.0 "OUNCES" That would make the SF v2 Screen a "3.0 version"
Got a veritable Light Cannon and unusually high Ambient Light situation so that you need something Really Dark? Add 5 "OUNCES" of colorant for a SFv2 5.0 screen.
Questions? Post or PM "BEFORE" you get started. Please. Dedicated build Threads of your own Authoring are always best.
Attention: To mix the prescribed amounts of Base & Viscosity Mixes together, as well as when adding the desired amount of Colorant, it is suggested that a 2 gallon Plastic Container be used. Such Containers will, besides offering a "No Spillage" size to mix things in, not shed Teflon particles off the sides like the metal 1 gallon Cans often do if one barks the sides frequently with the recommended Paint Mixing Tool (see link below)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Workforce-1-Gallon-Helix-Paint-Mixer-HM1HD/202251542
Important Notice: While thoroughly mixing in the Colorant is essential, do so only by using the Mixing Tool on low speed to avoid the "whipping" that introduces air (bubbles) that will interfere with proper mixing.
** Nylon Paint Strainer: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-1...36WF/202061359
The Strainer listed in the Link directly above (...or similar products...) are also usually available at Home Depot or Lowes (...strangely though not at Paint Stores... Go Figure? )
Paper Cone type Strainers "WILL NOT WORK", so if you cannot source the Strainer type listed, order some. They are reusable if rinsed "backwards" immediately after use.
Last warning...........do not attempt to spray without straining the paint. besides eliminating clogging, observing the rate of speed the paint drains through the Strainers in an invaluable help in determining as to if the completed paint mix is Thin enough. It should just barely "poop" in the Strainer, but then drop though at a rate consistent with the steady but even flow from the mixed paint container. (...the flow should be approx the same rate you would pour Milk into a smaller sized Glass.....)
RS-MaxxMudd v.2.5 (updated 2-20-2015)
RS-MaxxMudd Retro v.2.5(darkest and highest gain of the rs-maxxmudd mixes, note the amount of SILVER in the mix)
20 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - Silver
12 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl
12 oz Behr 1850 Ultra Pure White - Flat
14 oz Rustoleum Ultimate Polyurethane - Matte Finish (water based)
20 oz distilled/tap water**
----------------------------------
RS-MaxxMudd v.2.5
(for low to moderate ambient light)
16 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - Silver
16 oz Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl
12 oz Behr 1850 Ultra Pure White - Flat
14 oz. Rustoleum Ultimate Polyurethane - Matte Finish (water based)
20 oz. distilled/tap water**
----------------------------------
RS-MaxxMudd LL v.2.5
(for lower lumen pj's and controlled light home theaters)
20 oz. Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl
10 oz. Rustoleum Metallic Accents - Silver
12 oz. Behr 1850 Ultra Pure White - Flat
14 oz. Rustoleum Ultimate Polyurethane - Matte Finish (water based)
20 oz. distilled/tap water**
---------------------------------
this is the only mix of the rs-maxxmudd family that can be rolled
Attention!
The Following edit contains what is the most recent version of the Silver Fire formulation. Previous versions retain their validity, but the most recent versions are geared toward both refining the Formula, and in some instances, replacing components that either are hard / impossible to get, or less effective than the current choices. In the most recent version below, the individual Component amounts within the Reflective Base are graduated depending upon the chosen darkness of the mix upon adding specif amounts of SF Colorant.
*Last update/revision - 06/26/2015
SILVER FIRE v2.5 (Liquitex Based Colorant version)
All Liquitex Paints are found at Micheal's Arts & Crafts, Hobby Lobby Stores, or On-line at sources like www.DickBlick.com. Searches via Amazon and Ebay often return discounted results as well.
(Color Components)
Silver Fire Colorant Update
The following is an update to the Silver Fire v2.5 mix and applies to the colorant components.
Given the independent hard data... and descriptions from independent SF users making screens for themselves...
I am compelled to make these minor changes and make SF even more RGB nuetral.
(Colorant Components) - update 06/26/2015
100ml - filtered/distilled water for rinsing color components from utensils
50ml - Liquitex Basics - Napthol Crimson Red
25ml - Liquitex Basics - Phthalocyanine Green
14ml - Liquitex Basics - UltraMarine Blue
10ml - Liquitex Basics - Cadmium Yellow - Deep Hue
(Viscosity Components)
***Rustoleum's Ultimate Polyurethane Matte Finish (water based) 16 oz.
24 - 36 oz. Distilled or Filtered water*
(Reflective Base Components)*
Silver Fire v2.5 hue (Colorant amount in ounces – oz) ..........1.0 ..2.0 ...3.0.. 4.0 .. 5.0
Rustoleum Metallic Accents – White Pearl* See link below ** .,,,,,,20 ...21.. ,, 22,,..23... 24
Rustoleum Metallic Accents Sterling Silver *** AMAZON ..,,,,,,20. ..21,.., ,22,.. 23 .. 24
Behr 1850 UPW Flat Home Depot .....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,..10.. 10,.....10....10 ...10.
Liquitex Basics Gold Micheals . .................................................1.50 1.75 . 2.00. 2.25 2.50
...
The "Non-Bold" figures in the Reflective Base Table above are also "Ounces". As the "darkness" of a SF mix rises, the amount of Reflective Base components also rise
NEW Substitution for Liqutex Basics Silver 09-21-2013 (..this means "use it" if at all possible..)
***Rustoleum Metallic Accents Sterling Silver
http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-Met...terling+Silver
(comes in 32 oz container off Amazon )
* Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl is currently found only at Menards or Online (Amazon).
http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-Metallic-253611-Decorative-32-Ounce/dp/B003EELN1Y
*The 'Base' & 'Viscosity' components are mixed together separately from the 'colorant' components.
__________________________________________________ __________________
New Formula Addition:
As an alternative to the older RS-MaxxMudd LL & Retro formulas, below is a version hereafter called Silver Fire v2.5 N/C
Rustoleum Metallic Accents – White Pearl 24 oz.
Rustoleum Metallic Accents – Sterling Silver 16oz.
Behr 1750 UPW Flat 16 oz.
Rustoleum's Ultimate Polyurethane Matte Finish (water based) 16 oz.
Distilled Water 32 oz.
The "N/C" designation means that "No Colorant" is added.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________
NOOBS: Read the next section carefully !!!!!
The numerical equivalent of the shade of Gray (SF v2 1.0/1.5/2.0/2.5/3.0/4.0/5.0 on to ad nausea-um ) is equal to the amount "IN OUNCES" of Colorant added to what is a consistent and unchanging* Base combo of reflective and viscosity mixes.
* (...unless we decide to change them, of course. We'll let you know if we do.)
You want a lighter Silvery Gray screen that is excellent for a dedicated Theater yet still assists in improving perceived Contrast? Use 1 to 1.5 "OUNCES" of SF Colorant added to the reflective and viscosity Bases.
A Darker Gray for combating Ambient Light? Add 3.0 "OUNCES" That would make the SF v2 Screen a "3.0 version"
Got a veritable Light Cannon and unusually high Ambient Light situation so that you need something Really Dark? Add 5 "OUNCES" of colorant for a SFv2 5.0 screen.
Questions? Post or PM "BEFORE" you get started. Please. Dedicated build Threads of your own Authoring are always best.
Attention: To mix the prescribed amounts of Base & Viscosity Mixes together, as well as when adding the desired amount of Colorant, it is suggested that a 2 gallon Plastic Container be used. Such Containers will, besides offering a "No Spillage" size to mix things in, not shed Teflon particles off the sides like the metal 1 gallon Cans often do if one barks the sides frequently with the recommended Paint Mixing Tool (see link below)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Workforce-1-Gallon-Helix-Paint-Mixer-HM1HD/202251542
Important Notice: While thoroughly mixing in the Colorant is essential, do so only by using the Mixing Tool on low speed to avoid the "whipping" that introduces air (bubbles) that will interfere with proper mixing.
** Nylon Paint Strainer: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-1...36WF/202061359
The Strainer listed in the Link directly above (...or similar products...) are also usually available at Home Depot or Lowes (...strangely though not at Paint Stores... Go Figure? )
Paper Cone type Strainers "WILL NOT WORK", so if you cannot source the Strainer type listed, order some. They are reusable if rinsed "backwards" immediately after use.
Last warning...........do not attempt to spray without straining the paint. besides eliminating clogging, observing the rate of speed the paint drains through the Strainers in an invaluable help in determining as to if the completed paint mix is Thin enough. It should just barely "poop" in the Strainer, but then drop though at a rate consistent with the steady but even flow from the mixed paint container. (...the flow should be approx the same rate you would pour Milk into a smaller sized Glass.....)
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На фото видно что листы а4 темнее значит экран в итоге ярче белого листа и при этом уровень черного выше...Так что с верхним слоем надо еще поработать...Проблема в других стандартах Американских красок и Европейские аналоги могут другой результат в итоге давать...
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300 мл - это концентрированная смесь! Ее нужно доводить до нужной кондиции разбавляя растворителем или водой, ну, это смотря на чем основана краска.
Таким образом объем увеличится!
Вы когда авто-краску заказываете на подборе, то обычно спрашивают: вам готовую смесь или нет? Если нет, то обычно говорят сколько и чего в нее добавить.
Да и продают обычно краски не разбавленные, что бы уменьшит объем тары. А перед применением вы ее разводите до рабочей смеси, если правда на банке не написано, что она готова к применению.
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Я могу сказать одно что вот нанес смесь звездное небо и чувствуется что не хватает База(D)...Картинка как из зерен(вид ужасный),нужен эффект сглаживающий эту рябь...И смесь должна быть очень сильно насыщена этими частицами..Иначе много слоев наносить придется...Ладно просмотрю старые свои опыты и подумаю чего надо добавить...Но База(D) это точно надо...
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